People Can't Think
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Posted by FredFredrickson on 06/27/07 03:07pm.

First, I would like to settle a score. Public nudity is illegal, even if nobody complains. Many states have similar laws, but in NH (where I live) it's illegal to expose genetalia (fornicate, masturbate, masticate OWWW!!) "under circumstances which he or she should know will likely cause affront or alarm." In case you were wondering - being naked on public beach happens to be such a circumstance - even if nobody's there at the time. Because anybody can show up at any time - and it will most likely cause affront or alarm. Key words. They're bold. Common sense. (If you still doubt it, look it up).

Now that that's said, I want to dig really deeply into the real reason I'm writing something and not just posting three words and a picture today. People don't know how to argue.

Far too many times people have entered arguments with me, gotten personally offended and end up name calling, and it never ends well. The catch? I'm always right.

Now before you start throwing rotten vegitables at your computer screen, hear me out. I'm not really always right. I'm right a good portion of the time when arguing. The reason I'm right so much is because I don't enter arguments or debates unless I'm reasonably sure I'm right. I'd say that my knowledge is highly limited, and that 90% of the time I have no clue what I'm talking about. But when I'm wrong, or I'm not sure, you'll see me back down quickly, or I just won't say anything at all. And if I'm in the middle of a big argument, and you disprove my point (using facts, kids, not name calling) I will admit you're right, and feel stupid. As one should when they're wrong.

But that formal concession almost never happens. Know why? Because people lose their cool in arguments. Here's a tip: If you don't know what you're talking about, don't speak. Here's another tip: If you're getting hot and bothered, the best way to win an argument is not to do one of the following:

-Slap the other party on the face.
-Call names (Schopenhauer might disagree).
-Put mud in your pits and run around barking like a dog.


Basically, the reason that arguments never go well is simply because people don't understand arguing, and they certainly don't understand the concept of counter-points. Forget facts! Those are useless. No, it seems the most common form of argument is this:

Me: Well guys, I believe X to be true.
Idiot: X is not true.
Me: No, X is clearly true, why would you say that?
Idiot (surprised that somebody actually called them on their dumbass statement): cause that's the law!
Me: No it isn't, where does it say that? Show me.
Idiot: It just is, you're being an asshole.
Me: Using your logic, that would mean if X is false, then Y is false too!
Idiot: Stop being an asshole! *slap across my face*

Interestingly, after something like this would go down, the general consensus is that I'm too argumentative, and I don't know when to let go.

To a point, that's true. I don't know when to let go... of mankind. For some reason I have a belief that mankind doesn't neccesarily consist of all idiots, and that somebody out there understands something. BS ALERT **!!!***!!!BS ALERT!!!**!!**

Here are the facts:
1. Somebody made a direct assertion that my knowledge (and therefore any reasoning that is built on top of that knowledge) is faulty. That is an attack on my personality, my credibility, and sometimes my ability to perform every day tasks (including work).

2. I have not only a right to defend myself of such an assertion, but I have a responsibility to my own reputation (and professional life) to defend my position. Because of this (3.), it appears that I just want to argue with everybody all the time. This is far from the truth. In every instance, with out fail, it is the second party that starts the argument by directly contradicting something that I have said. It upsets everybody that I hold my ground, as it is not commmon, and usually comes as a shock to most people.

4. Most people are upset because an argument exists, and not because of the content itself. This is because they just want "everybody to just get along!" These people make me puke blood.

5. Some people who are not actively participating in an argument decide it's ok to chime in and declare that "both of you are wrong," or that "you two just need to stop arguing!" This makes me want to staple-gun people to moving trains that are heading for the closed bridge over a giant fissure to hell. And then vomit blood.

Basically what it boils down to is this: People can't think. And when they can't, but decide they want to argue in the big leagues, they find out what a real argument is all about, and then they go cry all the way home to their mommies. If you can't think, stop talking.

Oh and "You're not as clever as you think you are." is still not a counter-argument.

Oh and also - yes, that's naked people on a roller coaster. I want to know when, why, and where that happened. And then I want to be there.

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Riev_Mordred @ 06/27/07
"While I totally agree with everything you've said (and encounter it every day), I still think you're part of this as well, but more on the "argue whatever for no reason" side."


FredFredrickson @ 06/27/07
"most people think so. that's why I tried to lay it out here."


Riev_Mordred @ 06/27/07
"Well, I don't think its because of your reasons, though. I think you just like to be right, which I'm betting you won't disagree with."


FredFredrickson @ 06/27/07
"everybody loves to be right"


Spoonman @ 06/28/07
"You need to hang out with higher society. That is the solution to getting people to listen to your arguments."


ThatSam @ 06/29/07
"yacht club!"



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