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Posted by The Mexican on 07/09/04.

Most of you who have seen Moore's new movie would see Bush and his administration are very two faced when it comes to the Iraq war. At first, the administration said, "Saddam has no weapons and is no threat to the world." But later on in the movie they start saying, "Saddam does have weapons and does intend to use them."

Well its not the administration being stupid, infact its the itelligence community that was wrong about the WMD, not the current administration.

"Before the war, the U.S. intelligence community told the president, as well as the Congress and the public, that Saddam Hussein had stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons and if left unchecked, probably would have a nuclear weapon this decade," Roberts said during the press conference. "Well, today we know these assessments were wrong." - Fox News.

A report was released saying that the intelligence community was very objective, but was also very careless and this resulted in them overestimating the threat that Iraq posed. It also goes on to say that U.S. officials relied too heavily on Iraqi dissidents who may have their own agenda or did not penatrate Saddam's inner circle very well. The commitee pretty much just stated their conclusions on Iraq to the President not thier recommendations.

Now this does not soley take the blame of Iraq off our presidents shoulders, it pretty much takes Moore's aspect of it and shreds it to pieces.

This also shows that its not a single man in a white house that makes mistakes, it's human nature and everyone is capable of making a mistake.

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irisangelapearl @ 07/09/04
"" its human nature and everyone is capable of makeing a mistake." - his just so happens to be costing thousands of lives. "


SpIkE @ 07/09/04
"Are you thick jess? He was just pointing out that it isn't just one person who makes mistakes..."This also shows that its not a single man in a white house that makes mistakes." so saying HIS is pretty stupid. Actually I don't really care either way, I just like yelling at Jess."


irisangelapearl @ 07/09/04
"Thanks Andy. And while I realize what he said and it's not just one person, but regardless he is the one that gives the final say and just like the CEO of a company (for example something like Enron) he will take the fall for his and the people working for him's mistakes. "


The Mexican @ 07/09/04
"he gives teh final say due to info he gets.....his actions are due to False info that is not related to his administration...the reason why he acted was due to a very large mistake very far down the chain of command not associated to his admin!"


irisangelapearl @ 07/09/04
"50 USC 403(a), Director of Central Intelligence; reads, 'There is a Director of Central Intelligence who shall be appointed by the President, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate.'"


Legs @ 07/10/04
"ok, look the DCI is responsible for covering his ass. he NEEDS to make 100% sure that the intel getting to the president is solid. maybes and possiblys don't fly. You cannot stake thousands of american lives on a hunch. I mean, if the intelligence that they got was even CHECKED they would have found holes big enough for me to walk through standing up. I mean honestly, some of the documents are forged, and blatant forgeries at that. I think that this is what happens when we neglect our human intelligence and focus only on the electronic surveillance - the sattelites etc. frankly, as CINC he is responsible for EVERY SINGLE THING THAT GOES ON IN THE US ARMED FORCES, CIA, and FBI. that is why he is in charge of our freaking country. that's his real power. "


selle @ 07/10/04
"maybe the president should insist upon correct information instead of using false information as his excuse for making stupid decisions...."


SpIkE @ 07/11/04
"oooooo. good point liz"


The Mexican @ 07/11/04
"the point is he did not know the info was false because teh intelligence community told him it was correct info!"


Riev_Mordred @ 07/11/04
"BTW Pricks: The intelligence department IS THE ADMINISTRATION"


The Mexican @ 07/11/04
"um..no its not..sorry...you lose a point and do not go on to the next round."


The Mexican @ 07/11/04
"if it were...the president would have to appoint every member of the intelligence community...and well he doesnt...that would include every member of the CIA FBI and NSA. Intell community is not part of the admin."


Almeida @ 07/12/04
"The Administration is a synonym for the Executive Branch. The executive branch is charged with enforcement of the law and defence of the state. The CIA, FBI and NSA all fall under those categories. "


BOB_THE_SOBER @ 07/28/04
"First, it is the job of the Preident of the United States to take any actions necissary to defend this country based on the intel he is provided. If the intel given to the President is incorect, blame cannot fall on him for doing his job. The fact is that the people who collect the intel in this country are not appointed by the president and so thier actions can not be blamed, in any degree, on the current administration. even the highest members of our intelligence community, who are selected by the president, have no hand in the collection or filtering of the intell the relay. It is the job of those appointed under them to do that.If the intell that is being passed up the ladder, and filtered therein is incomplete or false then the intel that reaches the administrationj is such. If incomplete or false intell gets far enough from the source, there isd not enough evidence to it's true nature left to discount it."



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